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              1. Wow is this a bullshit response! wired.com/story/nfts-hot-effect-earth-climate/
                OpenGraph image for wired.com/story/nfts-hot-effect-earth-climate/oh my god twitter doesn’t include alt text from images in their API
            1. …in reply to @Chronotope
              This is an incredibly misleading and bullshit response in so many ways! Unlike a plane, where it has capacity for X number of people every time it takes off, each crypto transaction has an individual impact. You need to use a plane to get somewhere, you don't *need* to use crypto
          1. …in reply to @Chronotope
            The airplane industry is tremendously wasteful and flys empty planes for dumb bureaucratic reasons! Airplanes are not as efficient as they could be! Privileged private flights are entirely unnecessary and have a huge footprint for very few people! And so on and so on!
        1. …in reply to @Chronotope
          It is absolutely accurate to measure each transaction because each transaction causes an individualized effect! Each participant churns the ecosystem! High profiting and high profile NFTs encourage more involvement causing a greater impact!
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        In fact, if anything, it's an underestimate to tie a user's creation of carbon via a single transaction to that single impact, especially if you're a well known artist, the transaction impact as you are used as propaganda to on-board more users uses means a much larger impact!
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      And just b/c the existing art world has impacts doesn't mean you have an excuse to create an entirely new set of impacts to do basically the same thing. That's like looking at a wildfire in California & saying 'well I guess it's fine for me to light this forest on fire in Maine'
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    I'm not sure one could craft a more disingenuous and misleading argument! TBH, I had my doubts about Cryptoart dot WTF, but if this is the best counter argument the crypto currency world can muster then I'm starting to think it must have a pretty solid approach.
    1. …in reply to @Chronotope
      Mby there's a world where the technology has a use that excuses its impact, but who can dig up the potential usefulness of this technology when its community is apparently led by people who are either greedy liars or credulous idiots depending on how generous you are?
      1. …in reply to @Chronotope
        The biggest cryptobro grift is that they have managed to weaponize 'we live in a society'.
        1. …in reply to @Chronotope
          It really makes engaging in discussion with these sort of folks practically impossible too. Because either this person doesn't know what they are talking about at all and cannot contribute substantively to the conversation OR they're lying and greedy and willing to say anything.
          1. …in reply to @Chronotope
            So far the counter arguments are: - We use less unnecessary energy than you say - Any tech is automatically worth the impact - We buy useless carbon credits - We use *more* power to maximize use of the grid and cede power when needed making us batteries
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              None of these are good arguments and the last one is especially ignorant because *in order for humanity to survive* we need to *shut down many existing power plants* not make them more profitable.
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                Still waiting for a single argument that makes crypto currency worth its impact and I've only seen insultingly misleading ones or arguments that come out of either bs or a total ignorance of how they world works. This is very frustrating.


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