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Been enjoying reading sonyaellenmann's tweets and links for seeing how reasoning around difficult topics works.Permalink On twitter.com
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sonyaellenmann Here's the thing: I think we tend to use a lot of stand ins for interpersonal issues that make analysis difficult...On twitter.com
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sonyaellenmann I think that often what the right sees as PC culture is a request that they emphasize and show it in their argument...Permalink On twitter.com
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sonyaellenmann *empathizePermalink On twitter.com
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The right thinks they should not have to have or display empathy, but in reality that's how good arguments happen lifehacker.com/utilize-the-steel-man-tactic-to-argue-more-effectivel-1632402742Permalink On twitter.com
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on the left - a tendency to see refusal to emphasize (sort of objectivism about arguments) as personal attacks. (Sometimes they are tho)Permalink On twitter.com
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*EmpathizePermalink On twitter.com
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And then these all get abstracted into buzzwords and straw men. I wonder if the memo would have been received differently if he steel-man-edPermalink On twitter.com
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Should the Google employee have been fired? Yeah, but for excellent business reasons: as previously noted medium.com/@yonatanzunger/so-about-this-googlers-manifesto-1e3773ed1788Permalink On twitter.com
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Empathy makes good engineers. And good managers. And good employees. He didn't just lack it, he was against it.Permalink On twitter.com
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More than that, the argument showed an lack of curiosity about the other side of the argument, also a marker of a bad employee/engineer.Permalink On twitter.com
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More than that though, even if you could make the argument that he wasn't sexiest, the forum and form of the argument was disrespectful.Permalink On twitter.com
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Maybe Google's internal communications tools made things worse, but you don't respectfully argue with people by manifesto-ing at them.Permalink On twitter.com
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Beyond that and this case I think that political correctness critics tend to match on to a flaw in the left's argument badly, but some existPermalink On twitter.com
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Most notably that we use race and gender as stand-ins for life experiences and that has an accuracy issue with no good solution...Permalink On twitter.com
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I don't think it hurts to acknowledge this is a flaw. That we should be hiring based on background more, but it is mechanically difficultPermalink On twitter.com
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Using those stands-ins is the best solution currently available. But we should get better too. Everyone should always try to be better.Permalink On twitter.com
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Which is the problem with the Google employee manifesto. At core of was about resisting getting better personally and as a company...Permalink On twitter.com
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I mean there are lots of other problems with it, but the worst in an employee, engineer or human, is the refusal to try and become betterPermalink On twitter.com
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(note: auto correct turned empathize into emphasize in a number of places in this thread)Permalink On twitter.com
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Anyway, I think it is good to try & understand this person, his arguments, & their origins. But I still would have fired him if I was GooglePermalink On twitter.com
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(side note: sometimes I worry that geek and engineer cultures create people who believe they are just X check boxes away from being perfect)Permalink On twitter.com
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Related convo: propublica.org/article/who-is-taking-college-spots-from-top-asian-americans-privileged-whitesPermalink On twitter.com
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*sexistPermalink On twitter.com
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