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Man... in retrospect there were so many signs, not only that the alt-r*ght would emerge but that it would focus on Bros and start w/Gamers.Permalink On twitter.com
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Sometimes I think: if I had stayed in Barrens chat & tried to explain to people why Holocaust jokes were bad it would have had an impact.Permalink On twitter.com
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Which sounds laughable but not really if you think about how people were probably inducted into this...Permalink On twitter.com
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There's a pre-teen or a teen and they join a WoW group or guild and they are all trying to be 'edgy' by making 'offensive jokes'...Permalink On twitter.com
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... and some older/better player says 'haha it is funny b/c the Holocaust wasn't real' & kid looks up to the person and doesn't question it.Permalink On twitter.com
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... and boom their ideological immunities are weak and they repeat and multiply it and even they aren't sure of the line b/t truth and joke.Permalink On twitter.com
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And your in this situation for years, and when someone calls you out & says 'hey the Holocaust happened and this is seriously offensive'...Permalink On twitter.com
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... that person must just not be cool or edgy enough so kid goes 'haha jk, just trolling & you fell for it.' B/c your friend can't be wrong.Permalink On twitter.com
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... and then the kid is talking about girls with other social awkward teens and suddenly you hear about "honest" advice on RedPillPermalink On twitter.com
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...And now this kid has slid through this toxic social environment and is leading up threads about how awesome MRAs are...Permalink On twitter.com
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Each one of these social groups slides the kid into another level of terrible shit & next thing you know their posting on the Daily St*rmerPermalink On twitter.com
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You know, not any one of those groups were necessarily heading in that direction and that kid didn't have to go in that direction but...Permalink On twitter.com
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... the path there is so smooth and so easy and just paved over with jks and 'jus trollin' and they all reinforce each other.Permalink On twitter.com
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... and that kid ends up founding an MRA group, or making bomb threats for the lulz, or being a M*lo sycophant...Permalink On twitter.com
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And suddenly he's leading a whole god damn group of people and they're all Nazis and even he couldn't tell you how he got there.Permalink On twitter.com
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But you know what, I saw it, it happened again & again in places like Barrens chat in WoW, that's where it starts...Permalink On twitter.com
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The wrong joke, wrong group, wrong forum. It all snowballs b/c some pre-teen trusted the wrong person behind a screen-name in a game.Permalink On twitter.com
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B/c they were good at the game. That was enough to trust them. It isn't the game, it's the people, it's always the fking people.Permalink On twitter.com
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And that slide would have been so so easy, especially if your white, male and Christian and that talk rings no personal experience alarms.Permalink On twitter.com
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So yeah... I wonder if I talked to the right people in that virtual environment, explained why it was wrong, things could've been different.Permalink On twitter.com
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Because really it is all about the people and such a small thing could have stopped so much larger consequences...Permalink On twitter.com
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I see this shit now and I *know* some of those people were people I knew in WoW.On twitter.com
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I was just a kid myself, & I didn't know what I was doing, I didn't have the training, or the knowledge but shit. Still could have said morePermalink On twitter.com
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It isn't enough to inform kids I think. We really need to think about how we can go into schools and train them to argue this stuff.Permalink On twitter.com
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You know why? Because those environments haven't changed, they've just gotten worse. This is happening again *right now*.Permalink On twitter.com
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We're going to be facing an endless supply of shitty bro sexist racist assholes because we are doing nothing at the source.Permalink On twitter.com
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The gd nerd to Nazi pipeline srhbutts/831962353948303360Permalink On twitter.com
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Also: people you know can be monsters. buzzfeed.com/jacobclifton/pewdiepie-isnt-a-monster-hes-someone-you-know?utm_term=.dpyr0yqp5#.vqJBxGQgOPermalink On twitter.com
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The point I'm trying to make in this thread really: no one starts out as a monster, but they can end up there almost by accident.Permalink On twitter.com
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From the above BuzzFeed link, this is sort of what I'm trying to get at, though it lacks a good chunk of understanding of the origins here.Permalink On twitter.com
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"He is both a creature of, & unavoidably a thought leader in, a nominally masculine industry and culture undergoing extreme identity crisis"Permalink On twitter.com
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"Hitler jokes and rape jokes alike come originally from naivete, and eventually harden into belief"Permalink On twitter.com
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"Hiding from the ugliest parts of our own culture is putting them in a position to do the most damage."Permalink On twitter.com
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"They become collectives, at which point it feels like they came from nothing. But they came from somewhere"Permalink On twitter.com
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This is so on point it hurts. THEY CAME FROM SOMEWHERE, but we're not there, the arguments, the defenses we make they aren't in that place.Permalink On twitter.com
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These young bro hate groups are forming in the dark places we shoved them and they're not listening to our arguments on Twitter. What to do?Permalink On twitter.com
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The core of the problem: They didn't start as monsters, but they *are* now. It would be better to handle them *before* they become monsters.Permalink On twitter.com
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"The reality is that they were begging for limits, and we didn’t offer them"Permalink On twitter.com
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"This becomes a self-protecting, self-healing status quo that goes spiraling into madness, with everyone in the mob reassuring each other"Permalink On twitter.com
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There is so much about this article that is on point it is a shame it doesn't get all the way down to where this stuff starts...Permalink On twitter.com
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... because honestly it really does start inside video games.Permalink On twitter.com
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