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The more I think about it the more I think the core difference between the Marvel and DC comic book worlds is that in Marvel comics becoming a superhero makes you other and in DC being other is what makes you a superhero. It's weird both MCU & DCU reverse that for the screen.Permalink On twitter.com
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The one exception bring Gunn's The Suicide Squad, which plays the DC comics standards to perfection. Which is, weirdly, one of the main things that felt so revolutionary about it within the larger DC Cinematic Universe.Permalink On twitter.com
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But other than that think about just how many DC movies are about the hero having to learn to deal with how the world isn't made for or rejects them while MCU media are often about being empowered through difference and then the world having to figure out how to deal w/the hero.Permalink On twitter.com
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There's a whole essay to be written about how Iron Man 2 has problems b/c it can't figure out how to sync a comic story about Stark feeling fundamentally other-ed from the world around him in Demon in a Bottle w/a MCU plot about how he is exceptional & the world must adapt to himPermalink On twitter.com
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I think this is prob why, even though I like the MCU Spider-man films, they feel sorta out of sync with the comic character, especially compared to the Raimi Spider-man films which understood the core of his character is how he felt more out of place and wrong b/c of his powers.Permalink On twitter.com
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It's also why the MCU is going to have a ton of trouble figuring out how to fit in the X-Men. They are built on a central metaphor that is incompatible with how MCU films are written.On twitter.com
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It's also the biggest weakness of the Ms. Marvel TV show. Kamala being mostly at home within her own community while that community is struggling within the larger context of racism while adding an additional "scary" othered label to her identity is the core to the story...Permalink On twitter.com
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In the comic, becoming an Inhuman is scary b/c there is this larger context of them as an other (they have landed their space headquarters in the middle of the Hudson and everyone in the world is talking about what to "do" with them). But this context is missing in the MCU...Permalink On twitter.com
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I really liked that show, but it really was missing that additional context and it changes the character. Instead of Kamala being given an additional difficulty superpowers are cool and empowering in the MCU and the TV show struggles with that.Permalink On twitter.com
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Just thinking about this a lot since I saw the ending of She-Hulk yesterday & it all clicked into place. She-Hulk's narrative is struggling w/the contradiction of how being a Hulk should make her othered in narratively interesting ways but the MCU has no framework for that...Permalink On twitter.com
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It's why I think the meta ending makes sense theoretically but has trouble clicking in practice. The MCU can't state that being a super can suck b/c it undermines how MCU stories work, but that's the core story She-Hulk is trying to tell.Permalink On twitter.com
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The problem is even though it is implied in the TV show, the MCU has never shown the Hulk is actually out of control or scary on his own, only when manipulated. There's no given reason why people should actually be afraid of a Hulk that normal people have ever seen in the MCU...Permalink On twitter.com
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On the flip side, DCU can't figure out where to go next b/c Snyder's approach has canonicalized stories about how becoming a hero takes them out of the world. That means every story is too shallow, if you're POV character is out of the world, there is not a lot of depth to it...Permalink On twitter.com
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But DC's heavily crossed-over continual mega-event multiple-superhero-family comics are based around world building (unlike Marvel, which has a lot of its characters live in real world cities and places). And Snyder style storytelling can't really figure out how to do that.Permalink On twitter.com
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I don't know if the fact that the MCU is more commercially successful of the two while in comic book land DC usually is the more commercially successful says something fundamental about one type of character over the other, but it is interesting to think about.Permalink On twitter.com
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