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                        1. …in reply to @Griff_est88
                          Griff_est88 As someone who is looking forward to In Search of Tomorrow, my comments are not *objections*. Clearly this is a format people like, & I enjoy them in their own way. And I don't doubt that some of them require work around organizing the interviews or getting archival materials...
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                        Griff_est88 And I think that there is a lot of value in collecting and republishing archival material. But I also think there's a difference between doing that and what we would traditionally define as a documentary in terms of genre...
                    1. …in reply to @Chronotope
                      Griff_est88 I'm not going to touch on famous fan interviews, because your film particularly avoided that, which is *my personal preference* though I understand it isn't everyone's, but putting that aside ...
                  1. …in reply to @Chronotope
                    Griff_est88 The question of what genre it falls into, regardless of if it documents something or not, is interesting & important. Especially because I think that it does an injustice to our capacity to critique this new type of documentary when we are forced to lump it in with other types...
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                  Griff_est88 For example, the books Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Here Comes Everybody, and All The President's Men are all Journalism that document fact and reality... but all three are different genres within that category...
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                Griff_est88 I think this is the same thing. While I enjoyed your documentary, for example, recognizing and documenting the existence and creation of a beloved IP is not really a thesis in the way a traditional documentary would have one...
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              Griff_est88 To be clear! I 100% agree that the modern media landscape of recreation, reboot, and Official remix creates situations where intent and original inspiring works may be erased or have their meaning altered and preserving the original intent of the original creation is valuable...
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            Griff_est88 But if your intent was to argue through the documentary on It that it had an impact on the culture (vs just you as the creator) I'm not sure that just documenting creation and reporting about it was effective as a way to do that *for me*...
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          Griff_est88 Both in that case, and especially for other documentaries that attempt to do that via modern fan interviews, I don't think they present a thesis on what that impact was, or why it occurred, they don't really pull apart the content in the way that... for example...
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        Griff_est88 We Live In Public, on of my fav documentaries with a lot of archival footage, does. Or Hail Satan? which has a similarly neutral voice, also clearly does have a thesis and argues it through the work...
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      Griff_est88 Even What We Left Behind, which is arguably right on the edge of being a fan documentary, did seem to have more to say, both positive and negative *about* its subject media, vs more neutrally bringing forth a historical record on it....
  1. …in reply to @Chronotope
    Griff_est88 Here's the thing. I thought The Story of IT was an excellent piece of journalistic work, a documentation of a thing that was poorly documented previously that would make an archivist or a librarian proud. But...
    1. …in reply to @Chronotope
      Griff_est88 I just think it exists in a very different space than... say ‘Bowling for Columbine’. I don't think that's a *bad* thing. That space can contain *good* works and *bad* works. Just like any genre space...
      1. …in reply to @Chronotope
        Griff_est88 As is obvious from the length of this thread, nuance on Twitter is hard. It wasn't my intent to speak ill of your movie in particular (though there are some in this genre I don't like), but to try and invite a discussion of how what appears to me like an emerging genre works...
        1. …in reply to @Chronotope
          Griff_est88 I am a big fan of uncovering, preserving & rebroadcasting archival work about major media. And I think it is valuable to get those interviews on record. I really enjoy the oral history approach some publications have taken that has produced works like mtv.com/news/uoge5x/galaxy-quest-oral-history ...
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          1. …in reply to @Chronotope
            Griff_est88 I just think that it would be very useful to figure out how to define and understand these types of films better, and in a way that is different from what I consider a traditional documentary. In part, so we can judge them on their own merits! Hopefully this is a little clearer?


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