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When we talked about the post-Roe effects on broader issues around privacy there was one factor that I've been thinking about and seeing after GDPR that I'm starting to see signs that this might exacerbate and that's the fracturing of a physical layer of the web...On twitter.com
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One thing that started happening after GDPR was the rise of explicitly EU hosted services, a feature to make compliance easier. This has led to a rise in the number of data centers in Europe. techradar.com/news/gdpr-and-data-center-managementPermalink On twitter.com
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On the opposite end of the spectrum Facebook and LinkedIn went shopping for GDPR resistant venues - theguardian.com/technology/2018/apr/19/facebook-moves-15bn-users-out-of-reach-of-new-european-privacy-lawPermalink On twitter.com
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However, the end of Privacy Shield under the Schrems II ruling and the increased number of cases around even the transmission of IP addresses outside of the EEA has meant many are even more interested in keeping data-storing servers inside the EU. theregister.com/2022/02/10/google_analytics_gdpr_breach/Permalink On twitter.com
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This all sits alongside concerns about China-based hosting and the US CLOUD Act, along with increasing concerns people have with the US and others intelligence communities. The result is a slow but building shift towards privacy concerns becoming a reason to choose a data center.Permalink On twitter.com
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And now we're getting more and more invasive moves by anti-choice activist state governments in the US. This isn't only in regards to data seizure but even basic hosting now - washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/07/22/south-carolina-bill-abortion-websites/Permalink On twitter.com
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Perhaps you are more optimistic than I and think these types of moves will be struck down by courts... but that's not how corporate lawyers think! No company wants to pay to be the example case in a question of web servers, now the risk of US web hosting is rising more! ...Permalink On twitter.com
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Is hosting a news article a problem? What about a link? An index? An archive? Could any or all of these become the first case in an expensive court argument about web hosting and abortion? No company wants to be the first to find out.Permalink On twitter.com
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Over the last decade the way the web has worked and spread its infrastructure has meant developers have become less worried about server location. But this is going to change. Not only is your server location a legal risk on privacy issues, now it's a legal issue for free speech!Permalink On twitter.com
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It's going to become more and more important to decide where your web server lives and more and more of that business is going to shift towards the regions with the strongest privacy laws, because that will make compliance easiest...Permalink On twitter.com
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Now there's even more incentive to move your hosting out of the US because who knows if the state it is in is going to suddenly turn a swath of your website into a Christian Theocracy test case on hosting abortion-related content?Permalink On twitter.com
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This shift may have a wide impact. There's the economic impacts of course. The US is going to be losing business, potentially A LOT of business, to EU-based data centers. But it is going to potentially change the face of our experience in the US on the web...Permalink On twitter.com
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US users don't think about it much, even developers don't really consider it that often, but our experience of the web benefits significantly from the fact that most of it routes through servers on our continent. That might change...Permalink On twitter.com
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What happens if legal risk adverse companies decide that even hosting the cache layer of their site in the US presents a risk? Suddenly our access to the web gets slower. Our access to and ability to manipulate servers as developers gets slower, and more frustrating...Permalink On twitter.com
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Deployment time goes up, productivity goes down, systems that handle automated deployment become more expensive, the liability insurance costs go up for US-based or host-using companies.Permalink On twitter.com
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With companies facing down: 1. Privacy issues 2. User data seizure in controversial attention-gaining cases around anti-abortion 3. Hosting restrictions on speech This trend of making specifically EU-based hosting available is only going to accelerate w/these risks at play...Permalink On twitter.com
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There are further risks we can't even consider right now. How much of the formation of the modern web was quietly shaped by US laws? What happens when US citizens are no longer pushing the laws that shape the internet but their data and the companies that keep it are still on it?Permalink On twitter.com
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The post-Roe world looks increasingly like the US giving up its role in the formation and maintenance of the world wide web. Maybe, all things considered, that's the best for the web. Maybe not. But one thing is for sure: it will impact everything.Permalink On twitter.com
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And if you live and work in the United States, it's going to impact your job, the economy, and how you can and do interact with the world around you. The only question is how long until these shifts become functionally unrecoverable? ...Permalink On twitter.com
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Shifts like these happen slowly, than all at once. Companies will balance the risk of legal action with the threat of annoying users and losing productivity... but as more make the shift, that threat will just become the new normal, and the risk factor rises in consideration...Permalink On twitter.com
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One things for sure, the shift in hosting practices is already happening as the US fails to pass any sort of federal privacy law. More and more services and web hosts are noting EU-exclusive systems. The shift is already happening, slowly, but surely.Permalink On twitter.com
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I suspect that the next Silicon Valley won't be in Austin or Miami... it's going to be somewhere in the EU. The future of a more private web is bright... but it seems less and less likely that the US and its citizens will see the economic benefits or have a real say in it.Permalink On twitter.com
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If you missed the first thread, it is over here: Chronotope/1522248036390473729Permalink On twitter.com
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