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          1. …in reply to @MaxGendler
            MaxGendler I def agree that's part of the difficulty! But I think if we assign the "buyers" label to advertisers (Big Tech as seller here), there are a lot of buyers and I do think it could make it easier...
        1. …in reply to @Chronotope
          MaxGendler I just find the erasure of individual contribution & labor, especially by Zuboff, to be buying into big tech's propaganda about the novel economic model and nature of their own systems, instead of looking for levers beyond "vote" for resolution...
      1. …in reply to @Chronotope
        MaxGendler But I gotta believe that there's a model that shows this value, there are many steps between the assembly line widget maker and the final car product, but economists can identify the true value of their labor (even if they continue not to be paid for it)...
    1. …in reply to @Chronotope
      MaxGendler As someone who works on engineering systems of the type that abstract user data into new products, I think the model can be built to re-frame that valuation. The production tooling of code and the production tooling of the assembly line is not so dissimilar as Zuboff would claim.
  1. …in reply to @Chronotope
    MaxGendler (Also, if we combine Zuboff's model for data surplus with the financial models and financialization of data in Hwang's model, we can see significantly more direct lines between extreme profits and user's data.)


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