Chronotope’s avatarChronotope’s Twitter Archive—№ 136,702

                              1. "if you get people excited about the principles of The Correspondent, they will each imagine it in their different way in the shape of the journalism they want to see, and this will cause them to become members." *increasing volume scream* niemanlab.org/2021/08/there-was-a-trap-built-into-the-very-principles-that-we-got-people-excited-about-jay-rosen-and-rob-wijnberg-on-why-the-correspondent-failed/
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                            1. …in reply to @Chronotope
                              "I think the whole idea of global journalism is problematic and perhaps mislaid because there really isn’t such a thing as global citizenship. There’s a kind of global awareness that citizens can have [...] but you can’t actually live as a global citizen. So that was a big deal."
                          1. …in reply to @Chronotope
                            Rosen hasn't read... say... restofworld or like nytimes.com/section/world ? just to name the first two examples that pop into my head
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                        1. …in reply to @Chronotope
                          Some real boomer shit "'you can be concerned about global warming but that doesn't make you a global citizen' when we are all literally living on this one planet like... the point is to help people understand and make them care... that's *the work* of journalism jeezzzzzzzzzz
                      1. …in reply to @Chronotope
                        aaaahhHHHHHHHHH "They became fans of a concept [global journalism] that was never going to be translated into actual journalism they could patronize." I saw Rosen push students to do reporting with Google Glass but reporting engagingly on world affairs is apparently beyond us.
                    1. …in reply to @Chronotope
                      On COVID being literally the best possible opportunity to do "global journalism" Rob Wijnberg: "A lot of people canceled b/c of it. & not because of the financial insecurity [..] but because we were not offering them something that actually mattered to them enough to pay us."
                  1. …in reply to @Chronotope
                    Imagine saying this and then following up with "the view from somewhere wasn’t thought through enough to actually be able to connect what people were caring about with what we were offering" whew
                1. …in reply to @Chronotope
                  Oh I see... the mistake was that they believed in trust AND truth but they also made it part of their brand and THAT was the problem and the *reason* was because it hurt the brand when they did something untrustworthy. Yup, that's the lesson
                  oh my god twitter doesn’t include alt text from images in their API
              1. …in reply to @Chronotope
                good takeaway for journalists, don't talk about trust, don't talk about truth, don't make trust or truth part of your journalism brand. that's the thing they want you to take to heart. that's the big mistake guys it's where they went wrong right there
            1. …in reply to @Chronotope
              the problem wasn't that they *were* untrustworthy see the problem was that they talked about being trustworthy and that created this crazy expectation that they act trustworthy but really who would have expected that of a journalism outlet otherwise?
          1. …in reply to @Chronotope
            Got a crazy idea for programs that work w/publicly raised funds from individual people as stake holders: working in public. I know this is a shocking idea, you communicate with people who give you money. It is apparently so wild I must be a brilliant innovator for thinking of it.
        1. …in reply to @Chronotope
          Thank you for this little end kicker. It's not really a burn, it's common sense, but apparently that was lacking, so it def comes off as a serious burn.
          oh my god twitter doesn’t include alt text from images in their API
      1. …in reply to @Chronotope
        I guess The Correspondent was more American then they intended because 'withholding data from people so they imagine they are giving money for a product that matches their expectations while having no intent to measure or match those expectations' sounds as American as it gets.
    1. …in reply to @Chronotope
      It cost $2.6 million dollars to determine well actually global journalism doesn't exist & the media is incurably stuck in nationalistic tribalism forever & people have no capacity to see outside of their immediate environs. And also, don't talk about trust. That's the take away?
  1. …in reply to @Chronotope
    I'm notably pessimistic about the state of the world and especially the state of media but even I think that's some Real BS.


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