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I agree people often get the business models of advertising and social networks confused, but that misses the core objection to all this. It isn't about the value user data generates, or who surveilled whom. The point is omnipresent surveillance makes us less human. eric_seufert/1413152379302723586Permalink On twitter.com
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It doesn't even matter if all that data goes into a big database and never gets touched again. It's being observed, and the knowledge that we are being observed, recorded and categorized, by omnipresent ad tech that causes harms to the functioning of our society...Permalink On twitter.com
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And more than that it divides us into the surveilled and surveilling. It creates an inequality in these systems and reinforces the inequality in other systems.Permalink On twitter.com
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At the end of all these conversations, beneath it all, the core problem is that surveillance changes us and it changes and potentially harms our society. That's the problem, that and the fact that the people being surveilled didn't *choose* this. We did not and do not consent...Permalink On twitter.com
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It didn't come out of a vote, or even a general agreement by the citizens of any country. It came out of run-away capitalism looking to optimize profits on the back of people. It is maintained by a confusing web of thousands of unaccountable companies...Permalink On twitter.com
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User data driven ad targeting is a fundamental challenge and change to the working of our society and it has no controls or oversight by the people in it. The confusion between who does the surveilling, how much it is worth, and to what ends is *entirely* besides the point.Permalink On twitter.com
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The point is that we deserve to have a say in the way our society functions and that we deserve to be able to exist in the world without becoming a datapoint for advertisers, Facebook, or anyone else. Advertising surveils us. That is unquestionably true.Permalink On twitter.com
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We need to be able to look at surveillance & able to say *No* & being confident that saying No is respected. Instead of endlessly poisoned by loopholes, workarounds, device-specific rules, etc etc etc... No system where we are unable to say *No* is a fair system.Permalink On twitter.com
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I don't know how many times I can say this... but the nature of ad tech as a surveillance system impacts everything around us. The shift towards hyper capitalism driven on attention and behavior and performance... this isn't a precursor or coincidence... it's an *outcome*.On twitter.com
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"I just wanna live in a society where I have control over my life, and I can live equally with other people!" youtube.com/watch?v=fCUTX1jurJ4&t=1064sPermalink On twitter.com
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This is such a great video because PhilosophyTube perfectly captures the frustration of this argument every time we have it. There are other higher levels and details of the problem that we can easily pile on top & I am glad to discuss. But our humanity is always the core issue.Permalink On twitter.com
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