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A lot of the edgy superhero media that came out in the 90s and immediate post-9/11 period that's attempting to either grimdark or "deconstruct" the genre just doesn't feel interesting after a Superman film where the climax was him literally killing someone.On twitter.com
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I hate the Snyderverse but at least it had something to say, even if it was a dumb libertarian something. It makes these stories that are basically just 'well what if superman is a conquer' or 'what if people disagreed with superman about not killing people' read pretty lame.Permalink On twitter.com
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I mean, why even bother with a What If when you're not going to use it to explore a theme or an idea? This was also why The Nail was a boring comic, it doesn't really bother to explore what it all means, just grimdark chaos. It's a shame because there are interesting alternativesPermalink On twitter.com
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Some of the Majestic, WildCATs, Gen13, and The Authority storylines were interesting specifically because they engaged specific parts of the comic mythos to deconstruct with themes in mind and built the stories on and to expand the themes and ideas.Permalink On twitter.com
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And it was great because "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice & the American Way?" is just a great example of dialog via art on the very core concepts of the Superman mythos with the challenge to those concepts that was being written in The Authority.Permalink On twitter.com
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And there's a way better version of Jupiter's Legacy in the form of the followup arc in JLElite which engages with interesting questions raised by DC and Wildstorm's obsessions with covert Superheros.Permalink On twitter.com
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And the whole evil Superman thing is incredibly hard to handle without some core concepts to hang it on. It's why The Authority was wise to avoid a direct analog. Really I think the only comic I ever read that did a decent job was Irredeemable.Permalink On twitter.com
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Jupiter's Legacy was unreadable as a comic and as a TV show it ended up having nothing interesting to say, despite a ton of pretending like it did. By having a "behind it all bad guy" it doesn't even engage w/its own meager thematic premise and just becomes a rote Superman storyPermalink On twitter.com
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Invincible has a bunch of gross stuff it implied as a comic, and w/it (thankfully) cut out of the adaptation to animation it leaves a pretty show that boils down to "humanity good, America good, outside alien has secret evil agenda" which... isn't great. Especially todayPermalink On twitter.com
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The Boys season 1 was basically "oh what if superheros edgy and bad", which was very 90s, but actually latched on to and explored interesting stuff in s2 by realizing they can't just "be bad", they have to be *about something* bad.Permalink On twitter.com
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It's just some of these adaptations tend to be so mediocre it implies the mainstream books don't explore this stuff, which is silly, of course they do, all the time. Like almost every major Batman arc explores his no killing code better than Jupiter's Legacy does...Permalink On twitter.com
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Or equally interesting would be something like an adaptation of "Bruce Wayne: Murderer" which actually explores how Batman's preparedness, self-reliance, drive and ego can be turned against him, a great turn from the tired 'Bruce Wayne is the real mask' takes we see often.Permalink On twitter.com
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I think the idea that superheros are our modern mythos is generally correct and that absolutely makes them worth exploring and deconstructing. But it also means they deserve a better job of doing it than we're seeing in these adaptations.Permalink On twitter.com
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Ugh I just... imagine having a whole TV show season to explore the concept of a Justice League existing since the 30s and dismissing WW2 in one sentence! So frustrating. At least DC's mainline universe *attempts* an explanation, as silly as it is.Permalink On twitter.com
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