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Civil sending a non technical person to talk about blockchain is *chef kiss* but also, does Civil intend to archive full content on the blockchain?Permalink On twitter.com
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Implied a few minutes ago at youtu.be/Y9MN8xwmWBoPermalink On twitter.com
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So many wrong questions asked and answered here.Permalink On twitter.com
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I feel like it *is* worth it to go into all the reasons the Civil sale failed. Seems pretty pertinent.Permalink On twitter.com
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Blockchain's visibility in the types of communities it claims to secure with preserving data is causing problems in oppressive regimes due to its very transparency but hey it is totally able to help you vote... hmmmm I see a problem.Permalink On twitter.com
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"I haven't seen the proof yet [of blockchain's promise]" - manoushzPermalink On twitter.com
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"No one has a general definition of what premium [journalism] means ... we don't know how to quantify premium yet" - jarroddickerPermalink On twitter.com
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'There was a story to be told here and at least if blockchain falls on its face we've questioned our assumptions' - jarroddickerPermalink On twitter.com
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"We're squeezing [blockchain] and squeezing it to fit the assumptions we have now" - jarroddickerPermalink On twitter.com
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"The next phase is asking why does that data [that you store on blockchain] have value?" - jarroddickerPermalink On twitter.com
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'The incentives come out of people wanting to have a stake in the chain' - Mike Goldin of ConsenSysPermalink On twitter.com
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"Voting participation in adChain is under 1%" - Mike Goldin ConsenSysPermalink On twitter.com
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You have to be "assuming that people like money" when building blockchain applications. - Mike Goldin ConsenSysPermalink On twitter.com
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"People are extraordinarily generous with their time ... when there's a personal connection there" - manoushzPermalink On twitter.com
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.manoushz talks about the need for journalists to try things that will make us money because every journalist is, in many ways, an entrepreneur.Permalink On twitter.com
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"Everyone is so quick to say this isn't going hit my Q3 goal ... they aren't thinking about how this new technology is going to change their way of thinking in the first place" - jarroddickerPermalink On twitter.com
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"Gmail is free, if I screw up, eh [but with blockchain, money is involved] ... [blockchain technology] it's a leap and I still haven't seen it work" - manoushzPermalink On twitter.com
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"It requires this jump into the deep end approach ... there's no one in this room who is comfortable with the media model today" - jarroddickerOn twitter.com
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"Do advertisers in the future want to advertise with the Washington Post or do they want to advertise with you [a particular creator] and that's why someone hires you?" - jarroddickerPermalink On twitter.com
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"This collective element is what I love the most about Civil ... this ability to be small but deep with your reporting still requires an ecosystem ... the hope is that Civil becomes a mark of quality and that has nothing to do with blockchain" - manoushzPermalink On twitter.com
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Me: 'How do blockchain projects protect against people with lots of money who don't mind losing it to crash the project?' Mike Goldin of ConsenSys : "There are dystopian outcomes ... That's a 51% attack which TCRs really don't have a defense against." ...Permalink On twitter.com
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manoushz: "In Civil, the council is supposed to prevent that." The protection is that 'we're bringing people back into the equation'.Permalink On twitter.com
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"Can we start signaling better values?" ... 'The best way to think about it is a new set of data so that we can make clear these things are valuable.' - jarroddickerPermalink On twitter.com
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"The bottom has dropped out of the internet I must have to do something safe like publishing" - How ftrain ended up moving from software to writing.Permalink On twitter.com
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"The record of the story will always be on the blockchain but the story [itself] can be de-published" - alexiabedat So no, Civil isn't actually storing an archive of the content just the metadata of it so... how is it preventing censorship or maintaining archives?Permalink On twitter.com
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"It's software that's functional and if you can use it to give people better experiences and better control over their environment [that's a good thing]" - ftrainPermalink On twitter.com
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"The whole thing is one giant animated under construction gif" - ftrainPermalink On twitter.com
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"It seems to me there is always a governance structure stronger than technology and that's government or very rich individuals. Can this really help?" - emilybell Amusingly long silence b/f Salafel compares it to the early internet and its promise and failure to deliver.Permalink On twitter.com
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"When you want to know what's next on the internet I look at 'That's absolutely horrible and everyone is terrible'" - ftrainPermalink On twitter.com
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"We're putting a baboon heart into journalism right now" - ftrainPermalink On twitter.com
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When it comes to these blockchain projects the assumption is that participants share our values. "That's based on the assumption that the majority of people who say what's right [in blockchain projects] have the value of truth at heart" - alexiabedatPermalink On twitter.com
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.emilybell asking about public vs private blockchains and Salafel answers that it seems likely that private blockchains are the most likely to succeed. The biggest problem comes from having a single point of failure.Permalink On twitter.com
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"What level of anonymity is allowed? ... it's still humans involved." - ftrainPermalink On twitter.com
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"You'd be surprised at what courts understand and don't understand" - alexiabedat "[Courts] just didn't understand how the internet worked" - emilybellPermalink On twitter.com
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"Who likes the idea that whoever has the most money decides what's true? ... Everything we've seen here seems to work with whoever has the most coins have the most votes?" - Q from the floorPermalink On twitter.com
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"I don't think technology creates good or bad I think the people who use it do good or bad" - Salafel Man I could not disagree harder.Permalink On twitter.com
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"What makes me uncomfortable is ... the incentive [for blockchain projects] is monetization... but I don't know what else it could be." - alexiabedatPermalink On twitter.com
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.ftrain talks about 'citizenship' as being a part of the incentives in blockchain projects but that it was never realized on the web.Permalink On twitter.com
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- alexiabedat: "The failsafe [for blockchain participants] depends on who it is for, the publisher, the platform? A lot of the thinking ... from a media lawyer perspective ... ends up being very similar to how you protect yourself in print"Permalink On twitter.com
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"It's really hard to go backwards and that's the current cultural moment" - ftrainPermalink On twitter.com
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"There was an element of empathy [in the older technology proposals of the early web] but that isn't part of how centralized platforms work." - ftrainPermalink On twitter.com
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"I don't think it [blockchain] is going to make us a lot of money ... I think of it as a building material" - SalafelPermalink On twitter.com
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I gotta say Salafel seems very confident that kicking Forbes off the chain isn't going to be a problem Civil Council is going to have to face. I would bet that's the first issue to pop up.Permalink On twitter.com
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